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See allthe guy who couldn't gain weight while lifting should try those
Yeah but then he would become passive and not work out.
antidepressants are a piece of shit
Yet doctors prescribe them like candy because $$$$
word
just smile more and be yourself
in theory i think there is some good to it but it really comes down to whether they work for you or not and if they dont work and you are taking them its a terrible experience
lmao
doctors prescribe Candy to patients?????
i thought only americans do this...
>ED? One night with Candy will fix that
thats not true, it happens here too on top of the appointments being charged aswell
OMOOO
Hormones are even bigger scam.
Medical companies meme healthy people into believing they are wrong gender
and turn them into "patients" till the rest of their lives.
I wish medicine could be non profit oriented.
at least thats not a thing here, no trannies around but tons of depressed people like me
>at least thats not a thing here
yet
every degeneracy from the west will come here sooner or later
I think West will "die" in our lifetime.
I think that legalization of gay marriages was the biggest loss for LGBT community.
Leftists will always try to push something and when there is nothing left they will turn to support insanities.
i still cant believe that people are able to go to the moon and soon to mars but we cant fucking fix monke brains with mental disorders, just how hard is it for the pharma jews to make a drug that actually works 99% of the time and doesnt give you tons of side effects?
But that is not profitable
neither is blowing up tons of rockets until one makes it to mars, but it looks like not everyone is a jew
>people are able to go to the moon and soon to mars but we cant fucking fix monke brains with mental disorders
because we actually know how physics work but we don't know shit about the brain
Very few people are visionaries who want to further the progress of humanity, most people are selfish
me included
the rocket engineering went forward because people wanted to kill other people from far away without putting pilots at risk
and this is even more stupid to me, we know shit about the galaxies and universe that we never even see, but we somehow never figured out the fucking brain
medicine is always so far behind other STEM fields its just mind blowing
then figure out how to turn off kim jong un's brain without putting soldiers at risk
>and this is even more stupid to me, we know shit about the galaxies and universe that we never even see, but we somehow never figured out the fucking brain
do you think it's because people don't care about the brain? it's because it's way more complicated
the brain is the most complex thing known to mankind
but so are galaxies and we still know so much about them despite being out of reach
you are such an ignorant motherfucker
its just factual, there are tons of complex things out there that humans have figured out one way or another
>brain is smaller than galaxies so it should be easier to figure out
yeah tons of complex things and one that is THE MOST complex and it's called a brain
its not just the brain, medicine in general. there are so many diseases with little progress for treatment even now like cancer despite being around for decades
A lot of science is just approximations. Like when dinosaurs were alive.
Many of those guesses vary quite a bit. But were somewhat standardized for mainstream.
You cant pull shit like that with human biology.
go to some uni and let them examine your brain
I'm sure it would be quite easy to figure out how it works
isnt that part of the process they go through though? approximations, simulations, then real world testing/trials and if it works its pushed out there to the public
>isnt that part of the process they go through though? approximations, simulations, then real world testing/trials and if it works its pushed out there to the public
who said no one is doing those things?
maybe in 50 years we will understand the brain, and it's not like we know LITERALLY everything about the space
we just know how to send shit to one nearby planet
But they need to reach a viable conclusion.
You wrongly approximate extinction of dinosaurs and what will happen?
Some coworkers decades later will shit on your work.
What happen if you wrongly assume workings of the brain?
You lobotomize people.
>What happen if you wrongly assume workings of the brain?
you churn out a lot of shitty half-solution antidepressants where you have to spin a wheel to find the right one for you if you are lucky
Now we've circled back to the beginning. It's way more profitable to keep people in constant need of something that sort of works, than it is curing them permanently.
yeah, i mean its entirely possible that there is a solution out there and its just not put into production because these half solutions are good enough for some people and for the others they may not work but they still bring in profits
its also entirely possible they just somehow havent figured it out 50 years later
>its also entirely possible they just somehow havent figured it out 50 years later
Of course. Not disputing that
short term it is more profitable to cure something because everyone will want your cure
i don't think you can hold progress at bay like this, because if someone else will eventually find the cure anyway
>because if someone else will eventually find the cure anyway
That is why you give them a choice of joining you or you get rid of them
unless there is an agreement between competitors to do business like that, this surprisingly happens often outside of pharma so i wouldnt be surprised if its a thing there too
yes, let's just supress all information about a potential cure in all scientific papers
Not all, but enough to make the most money
fuck, I missed nerd discussion
she's not for that!!!
that webm is precisely for that
>I'm sure it would be quite easy to figure out how it works
btfo
it's cute pure Candy, you can only look and smile, nothing else
holy shit
fucking genius
too late...
update: finished the movie
really interesting, is this what j-thriller is like
It really depends. Many directors have their own styles.
Closest thing now to watch is Kairo 2001. Also by Kurosawa.
Or maybe Hanabi if you liked the exploration of relationship.
already seen kairo a few weeks back, that movie was very unsettling, like the dark atmosphere of it. interesting concept too
im gonna watch noroi now if i can find a damn download for it
I have seen it recently. It is pretty good.
Very slow and atmospheric with great pay off.
https://youtu.be/aO4IktVcxyY found it on youtube none of the sites i download from have it for some reason
Youtube also have Occult. Shiraishi's next movie.
Check it out if you like Noroi but it also is a bit satire of the genre.
tbh im looking for something more thriller than horror, like cure
cure was 100% thriller and it was great
Chaser or Cold Fish (if you don't mind mor edgy)
the korean chaser?
yes
thats a great one
I am going away.
Have a good night.
>I am going away.
thank for reminding me about this
the day oc went away...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfP660soWg8
nightly cute banger
idk why but I hoped for Dal_sooobin there
what did you do
looking at Raina's thighs
I haven't finished Sky Castle yet
pretty cute jap
based
arin-ah! arin-AAAHHHH!!!
>we know shit about the galaxies and universe
if you only knew...
do you know why why dark matter is called like that? it's a placeholder term becase we're clueless about what it is or if it even is real lol
I love to see the reactions of everyone
huh, smart chingu
yeah, there're a lot of things in physics we don't know yet: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unsolved_problems_in_physics
but brain is also a big problem. nobody really knows how to build an artificial brain yet, and how does the consciousness really work, we're only scratching the surface. mostly because it's really hard to research billions of neural connections with your limited intelligence
although we're not that good at other topics such as molecular biology, we don't details of a lot of processes happened inside a life forms
>people wanted to kill other people from far away without putting pilots at risk
you mean the nazis V-2?
soviet rocket engineers had to delivery nuclear weapon somehow, they didn't have good bombers
and americans just have to follow soviets because it's not good to let your enemy outrun you in such technology
I'd say there are more people working on the brain compared to space, because that field pays much better than space related stuff
>nobody really knows how to build an artificial brain yet
that example is a stretch of what we can do, it's like saying "we can't even travel to Proxima Centauri and it's merely 4 light years away"; yet with both the brain and space travel people are working and making tremendous progress every year
>and how does the consciousness really work
we have a pretty good idea though, it seems like in general people is not even aware that science is very close to understand why we dream at night (brain is flushing away waste and repairing itself) but most still believe they have a meaning
What the hell are you autists even arguing about here
>that example is a stretch of what we can do
I don't mean we have to simulate the full thing (seems like there're not enough CPU resources for that yet), we aren't even sure we're moving into a right direction with the neural network research
for example there's GPT-3 NN where they simply put tons of computer power and collected data into a plucked-out-of-the-air NN architecture. as a result it may generate some interesting texts and solve some tasks, but sometimes it answers as a dumb shit instead, indicating it doesn't have any proper understanding of what it tries to solve
>we have a pretty good idea though, it seems like in general people is not even aware that science is very close to understand why we dream at night
I can't see how are those things are related to each other
even if we understand the purpose of the dreams, doesn't mean we can explain all the tiny processes of neuron structures involved in the work of our consciousness and where exactly it's located
>we aren't even sure we're moving into a right direction with the neural network research
this is a false assumption, we're moving into the right direction, it's not like people are playing around and guessing to see what works and what doesn't
The point I'm making is not in the details, but there's this weird idea that space related research is so advanced compared to other fields which is completely absurd; there's even a phrase that more or less says we don't fully know what's in the deepest pits of the oceans but we know a lot about space. Maybe it's more that people accept discoveries about space more easily because it's unrelated to them, but if you tell them "a computer can copy/emulate what consciousness is" and they would not accept it.
Heck, people even accept the idea of black holes so easily, that contradicts the notion of classic physics.
>this is a false assumption, we're moving into the right direction
how do you know? there're no proper results yet
>Maybe it's more that people accept discoveries about space more easily because it's unrelated to them
I think that's because we have rovers on mars and images of distance galaxies, but can't even have a fucking chat bot to speak with
i.e. people can see huge progress in one field and minimal progress in the other and make (proper) assumption that that second field isn't fully developed yet
>there're no proper results yet
It's not a single purpose or individual work, the progress is done with every single discovery, as small as it is.
>but can't even have a fucking chat bot to speak with
There's a person already documenting chat bots on Reddit used to persuade people, nobody can distinguish them from real people. What this person did was to make them click on his own site, and he could track them to the same Amazon server and with instant clicks after baiting them into clicking. I'm sure 4chan has a lot of bots that are just like real people.
I'd bully the fuck out of you nerds
t. Soojin
>nobody can distinguish them from real people
if you were a chat bot, I would agree. but I'm sure that reddit bot posted simple short answers which didn't require to follow context during dozens of posts.
I've already mentioned GPT-3, check it out. at the first glance it may seem impressive. but eventually you'll find out a lot of weak points of that system
>I'm sure 4chan has a lot of bots that are just like real people
are you aware of the turing test history? it's easy to pass one pretending to be retarded so the person on the other line can't see the difference...
>I'm sure that reddit bot posted simple short answers which didn't require to follow context during dozens of posts.
You're wrong, as I said nobody is able to distinguish them except for how fast they reply to you. They're able to keep a long conversation as long as they're in power, making the conversation go to wherever they're programed to. Most people fall for easy tricks like strawman or with personal attacks.
The Turing test is unrelated to this, because it involves AI capable of reaching a point of intellegence they weren't programed to.
Funny that we talk about this because we're like bots, talking about something completely unrelated to the main point (for me it was thinking space-related research is more advanced compared to others), and we won't stop until someone gives up. And nobody likes to be wrong on the internet.
>You're wrong, as I said nobody is able to distinguish them except for how fast they reply to you
this is simply false, you're impressed by someone's review of that bot. there's no technology like that in a public yet (we're not sure what google/ms/facebook/openai might have at this point, but probably not much better than gpt-3)
but give me a link, I will check it anyway
>because it involves AI capable of reaching a point of intellegence they weren't programed to
the point is to make AI with a human-like intelligence
>Funny that we talk about this because we're like bots, talking about something completely unrelated
it's the same argument as "we post text, bots post text too, therefore we're bots"
what else would you do on imageboard except permanent offtopic discussions
even the other thread does that
I've been mixing instrumentals with normal songs, it's fun. They're not perfect but it's interesting.
A filter for filtering the voice would be helpful too but that needs more expertise.
botchingu
>you're impressed by someone's review of that bot
He wasn't making a study of the nature of bots, but its usage. You're overestimating how people talk, Google has been training its NN for almost a decade now. This is why the meme of "normies" and NPCs exist, because from an outside perspective they're very easy to spot, and in this case to mimic. These bots are not a replacement for human interaction but they have the simple purpose to derive a conversation to a certain point.
it's possible to emulate conversation to some point, but in private discussion you will quickly find out it's a bot, e.g. by asking that type of questions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winograd_Schema_Challenge
even if you don't want to put it to a test, that bot would be simply boring and stupid, making dumb logical mistakes all the time, and citing random shit now and then
unfortunately we can't replace regular humans with bots in our daily chat conversations yet, because they are that stupid
This wasn't the point, the central idea was that you said "we can't create a NN similar to a human brain yet", and my counter argument was that we're close to that (close as in decades). The very central point is that scientists are making huge progress in this regard.
Stupid is not the right word, I'd say they're limited. Many people put those bots to the test but that's not what you do in real life with a person, if you just ask simple questions a bot would be able to answer very accurately.
(lemme make a new thread)